Saturday, June 14, 2014

Women and the Argument for the Priesthood

   
              Alright, it's been like 6 1/2 months since I've written, however, I've felt inclined to write about this topic for some time and I am finally doing it. It's really quite simple, but let's start a ways back, just for basic background to those who may not know basic church history/doctrine. 

              *** If you are a member that knows the basic doctrine of the restoration, then you can skip down to where it turns blue.

             When Christ was on the earth like 2000 years ago, He didn't come down here to just hang out and make people feel nice, He had a lot of missions to accomplish in a very short amount of time. One of those being, to establish and build up His church, The Church of Jesus Christ, the one and only true church. Now as we know, a lot of people didn't agree with Him, His teachings, or the men that He called and ordained to be His apostles. Why did he even call apostles?  Well, to give them authority (priesthood) to act in His name and help Him run His church and teach the people pure doctrine! It's all through the Bible, God calls prophets and apostles to teach and guide the people back to Him. 

            Anyways, as we know, Christ, His teachings, and His apostles were constantly rejected by the majority of the world. Even before Christ died, in His church, people didn't always agree, but Christ and the apostles were there to lay it down straight and the people could accept it or leave. Well, Christ was killed to atone for the sins of the people. So what happened to His church? Well, our Savior had planned ahead when He had called and ordained His apostles to run His church. He had given them the priesthood authority, or the authority to act in His name. (Luke 9:1-6). 

            Unfortunately, there is a pattern where God calls a prophet (or apostles) and the people reject them and usually kill them. Then the world is in the dark for awhile (also called apostasy), but because God is merciful and loves us, He calls another prophet to bring light and lead and guide the people of the world in Godly truth. Well the people rejected, imprisoned, and killed the apostles of God. Without the priesthood keys that the apostles held, the church fell into a state of apostasy, because there was no one with authority there receiving direct revelation from God on how to lead the church or people of the world. This literally brought the people into the "Dark Ages."

             As the pattern continues, God being ever merciful, He called another prophet to the Earth in the year 1823, his name being Joseph Smith Jr. (If you have questions about this, ask the missionaries or go to lds.org or mormon.org).  Jesus Christ and God the Father appeared to Joseph Smith and Joseph Smith was given the priesthood keys and was called to restore the true church of Jesus Christ. The church of Jesus Christ is now known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It was revealed that this would be the last dispensation, or in other words, the last time period in which we have a prophet and priesthood keys on the Earth until Christ comes again. The authority will not be taken again and the church will not fall again before the Savior comes! Hence the latter-days.

           History constantly repeats itself. Here we are in 2014, a time where the people think they know everything, regardless of what history says or what the Bible or Book of Mormon say. People disagree with a piece of doctrine and try to change it. They either end up leaving the church (and maybe starting their own church) or they realize they aren't in control of Christ's church and that the church of Christ will not and cannot be peer pressured to change its doctrine to please every Tom, Dick, and Harry. For those of you who would like a church that mixes true doctrine with the philosophies of men, there are plenty of those, but the LDS church isn't it. 

          Now the point of this whole blog post is that Christ gave his keys to His prophet Joseph Smith Jr., Joseph then passed it to the apostles and it was passed to the succeeding prophet and apostles until now. Today President Thomas S. Monson holds the priesthood keys. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is here claiming to have the priesthood keys and to be the church of Jesus Christ. So dear women (and men that are in agreement with the ordination of women), if you believe all that was mentioned above and that President Monson holds the priesthood keys, then don't you think a true prophet of God would give women the priesthood if God told him to? If he is a true prophet, then I'm sure that, if commanded to do so, he would... or he'd probably be struck down. 

         Now, if you think that President Monson is just hogging the priesthood all to the men and himself, then deep down you probably don't believe him to be true prophet of God. Therefore, you are arguing to have something that doesn't exist, you are arguing to gain priesthood keys from a false prophet. False prophet = False priesthood keys.

       So which is it? I mean the whole argument is invalid and either of the above answers won't get you the priesthood just because you think and say that you want it and "should" have it. I think that the definition of "should" is defined by Christ, since it is His church. The Lord's church isn't run as a democracy. The prophet is here acting as Christ's mouthpiece and has to guide the world in these latter-days. If you believe that, then trust that the prophet and apostles would give the priesthood to women if the Lord commanded them.                                 

       This a church of questions, it's how this church came about. The problem happening right now is not that things are being questioned, it's that people aren't accepting the answer God is giving through His prophet. Picketing and peer pressure do not change the answers and at this point these women and men for ordain women are not asking questions, they are demanding and publicly defying and mocking The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its ordained leaders. 

        I hope that these people will come back to their basic beliefs and not let pride become between them and the blessings that await them as faithful saints of Jesus Christ. Having love between members, regardless of opinions, is so critical. Let us not forget that poor choices don't equal a bad person. If members and non-members alike can remember to exemplify Jesus Christ and treat each other with respect and love, then all will be made right.

By: Natasha C.

            

         
             
             


14 comments:

  1. I like this post a lot. I too have been thinking a lot about this topic lately. I liked your comment on how we are not a church that mixes philosophies of men with doctrine. I feel that the word "truth" is misunderstood. I believe there is one "truth" or one "doctrine" that fits all. If something is true then it cannot be changed. For example, 2+2=4. This is true. No matter how often my little nephew tries to say 2+2=5, it just doesn't work. God's truth, or God's doctrine, cannot be changed, even if others have different opinions. Those responsible for carrying the priesthood are worthy males. This is truth and it cannot be changed. I, as a woman, have never felt discriminated because of this. I have other responsibilities I must carry. I am grateful for God's truth and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints does not seek out the philosophies of men. The doctrines taught in this church are unchangeable, not because of human stubbornness, but because they come from an unchangeable, perfect God.

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  2. I think god started out with good intentions 7,000 years ago but now in this modern day and age god has fallen way behind the current trends. I think god needs to update his image to be more in touch with the modern youth. For example if god made it so you could go to church over facebook.

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    1. God really doesn't care about what is trending in society. His laws and doctrines are eternal, and will stand the test of time. We are taught to be "in the world, but not of the world". The trends of the day are fleeting, but God's way will last through the eternities.

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    2. I think Chanel was being funny. Could be wrong, but I believe it was an attempt at irony.

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  3. And what of Gods changing his opinion of the blacks holding the priesthood in 1978. He has been known to change directions.

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    1. Could happen. Probably not in this scenario. But if it did it would come from the top down. Not from the bottom up.

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    2. Well done, Herbert. That is EXACTLY the way it should be done.

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    3. Carolyn,
      Joseph Smith actually gave several black men the priesthood. That doctrine never changed, it just wasn't practiced for some time. The keyword there is that they were black MEN who received it. Women have not and will not ever receive the priesthood. It has never been the doctrine and will never be the doctrine. God doesn't just change his mind over a doctrinal matter.

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    4. God did not change his "opinion" of blacks. His opinion of those of African descent has been, and always will be, that they are His children and He loves them. We still do not know why members of this particular ethnicity were not generally given the priesthood until 1978. Nor do we know why God confined the priesthood to the lineage of Aaron during the Mosaic dispensation, or why the gospel was only given to the Jews during Christ's life, then opened to Gentiles after His death. God appears have His own timeline for when responsibilities are bestowed upon His children. However, His pattern is unfailing -- faith and obedience comes first, then the responsibility. Before 1950, few members of the church were of African descent. As people of this lineage began to join the church in larger numbers, both in America and abroad, the issue became a persistent question in the minds the prophets, and their petitions to the Lord regarding the question of the priesthood also became frequent. When the revelation came, it was only after several decades of prophets and apostles praying for guidance and understanding. Faithful members of all races prayed, and waited patiently, for the Lord's word on the subject. Faithful black members did not march on Temple Square, cause disruptions on private church property, run to the press every time they got a letter from a church leader or organize splinter groups and attempt to politically pressure leadership into making a change.

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  4. Great blog. Explained perfectly. It's sad seeing so many people falling for this nonsense. Follow the prophet! Not that hard to do. Read the book of Mormon and bible and see the pattern of people trying to change doctrine to fit their own views. Doesn't work out too well for those people.

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  5. Thanks for being a good voice. We need more people who can explain in a clear and non-contentious way. The truth stands on its own and you have done a good job of showing this.

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  6. Thanks for writing this! It was like a breath of fresh air! Here are a few thoughts I've had on this recently:
    http://celestial-living.blogspot.com/

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  7. There are some questions I have about the flow chart. Do we actually KNOW if any prophet sincerely and with real intent asked God if women should have the priesthood, or do we just assume they have. There is one more box which is missing fromthe flow chart. It is the "No Answer" box. That, apparently, is what Pres Kimball experienced for YEARS when he kept asking about blacks and the priesthood. Clarity about those two boxes would be helpful

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